Jay Shetty sits down with Madonna in the latest episode of On Purpose, where she opens up about the spiritual foundation that has carried her through some of life’s most testing moments.
For nearly 30 years, Madonna has followed a spiritual path that she says has shaped her resilience, fuelled her creativity, and defined her sense of purpose.
She talks with Jay about what first inspired her to seek deeper meaning and the practices that became her lifeline through adversity.
The discussion touches on themes of transformation, the search for meaning in suffering, and the freedom that comes with radical acceptance.
Madonna reflects on moments that tested her most, from loss and betrayal to near-death experiences, and explains how choosing to see these challenges as opportunities rather than punishments gave her strength and clarity.
Later in the conversation, Jay and Madonna are joined by her longtime Kabbalah teacher, Eitan, who adds a further layer of insight into the discussion.
Together they explore the role of inner struggles in personal growth and the way reframing challenges can reveal a deeper sense of light.
Eitan offers practical tools for listeners, including pausing to embrace discomfort and cultivating what he calls “certainty beyond logic.”
Both he and Madonna stress the importance of reframing difficult experiences as opportunities for transformation, with Jay guiding the exchange into practical takeaways for listeners.
The episode, available now, offers a rare and personal side of Madonna, showing how spirituality has not only sustained her but also given her purpose throughout her life and career.
