Episode 4 of I’ve Been Thinking…with Peter Frankopan is with West Indies cricket legend Michael Holding.
Michael talks about his new book ‘Why We Kneel, How We Rise’ which tells his own experience with racial abuse alongside interviews from other sporting figures.
He talks about why he wanted to write the book, on his childhood experiences of racism and on dealing with racism as a sportsman.
Michael also discusses the victimisation of young black sportspeople, on cricket’s response to taking the knee and much more.
You can listen to the episode HERE.